Philzone.org Discussion Board: Archive 2004: Politics Archive 2004: When will "it" be legal?

Just wanted to get your hip-political-zoner opinion as I ponder the politics board....
When will kaya be legalized?

I'm predicting 2020

I don't see it happening. Although, I am convinced that the govt has the opportunity to play a bigger role in the drug trade and make more money while it is illegal. It is possible that we could see local areas decriminalized in the next say 40 years, but I don't anticipate any change in federal law during my lifetime.

Prosecution for all practical purposes will cease before the end of 2005.

>>>"Prosecution for all practical purposes will cease before the end of 2005."

Gimme some of what your smokin' MAN !

In the South, you will go to jail for a stem or a seed.

In case the recent election didn't show you, most people vote their wallet instead of their weed preference.

Thats amazing ! !
I was told by the media most people voted morals / security

I mean worse economic president since Hoover, right ? Is that not a fact ? Biggest attack on the US ever on his watch, etc., etc.

>>most people vote their wallet instead of their weed preference.<<

Actually, 80% of the people surveyed in exit polls on election day that said their main concern was the economy voted for Kerry.

So, no, I don't think they vote their wallet, they vote whatever the news (owned by the corporations) tells them to vote for.

Then again, who can believe exit polls these days.

But you asked for a prediction when the green will be legal...I'm going to say 2012 just because lots of wierd stuff is supposed to happen in 2012. Why not legalization?

>>So, no, I don't think they vote their wallet, they vote whatever the news (owned by the corporations) tells them to vote for.

Which is why Kuchinich didn't get many votes. He got no coverage because they were afraid to let people hear what he was saying.

Just like they won't admit God made herb for man

>>>Actually, 80% of the people surveyed in exit polls on election day that said their main concern was the economy voted for Kerry.

Does this perhaps mean that they're concerned with the US economy though, not with their own economic status?

Oh, and my prediction is 2016.

Y'all dont see Marlboro and Camel jumpin on weed once cigarette smoking is fully eradicated in the public places of cities like nyc? Marlboro Greens? Camel Spliffs?

"hey man, welcome to..."

"Where are we again, man?"

"Oh, yeah! Welcome to marlboro country!"

It will be legalized, taxed appropriately, controlled sufficiently when you whack lefties and whack righties vote Libertarian and make a difference for the first time in decades.

...and let me add..."appropriately" and "sufficiently" from a Libertarian perspective means......

republicans who smoke pot

http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/20765/

i just want to go to starbucks get a coffe and a smoke...after going to the 'dam, one can see the possibility if, for nothin else, the capitalist opportunity!

When will it become legal?

When Organized Crime says so!

Crime syndicates make all the money. They also have political clout.

It's not about popular vote or what polititians think - it's about the cash-cow to crime syndicates!

There is such a huge "substance abuse treatment industry" in this country. People build careers and pay their bills "consuling" people who the courts send them for various reasons. All of a sudden you are subjected to random drug screens and they group casual pot smokers in with the worst crackheads. Simple minded world view which is typical of the American electorate- just look who lives in the White House and you will see how far away real justice is. Pot should have been legalized decades ago. Actually, it should never have been made illegal. The drug laws were conceived in a spooze of fear and racism in the early 1900s. Jesus said to love the Lord with all of your mind. Marijuana and LSD help people access areas of thier mind which are otherwise unavailable. Thus- the drug laws are anti-Christian...................

Canada is actually re-thinking it's policty on pot thanks to George W. They are afraid that there will be economic ramifications if they move toward legalization. We may be further away then you think.

there is an upside to it's current status...
no coorporate regulation and misuse/purely personal choice, right?

Okay, so why is it illegal?
Yes, racism and the idea that "weed crazy people" were gonna go out and rape all of our daughters and corrupt all of our sons did play a role. But let us not forget the people that truly have something to lose if the proverbial shit were to hit the fan. Cannabis actually can be made into a lstronger and longer lasting fabric than any cotton product ever could thus becoming a cheap and durable competitor for the textile industry. Moving on, hemp products also can be made into a cheap type of paper which would hit the logging industry. Medicinal Cannabis can be used to treat a variety of debilitating conditions which are currently treated by massive doses of pain killers, so tic off the pharmeceutical (spelling?) industry as well. At the end of the day the legality or illegality of cannabis can be traced to the wallets of several of the largest lobbying groups in america today. Couple that with the fact that we have a leadership that bases its policies on paranoia and decades old science. Until the regular american citizens band together, and get out there to fight for reform as a unified front (and the rest of the country stops being ignorant douchebags), we're not gonna get anywhere. My god I'm stoned.....

You are correct. It goes deeper than hysteria and politicians' need to identify a "common enemy". A sane approach to cannabis would threaten corporate structures and their economy. Unfortunately, they don't see legalization as an opportunity to develop new products and technology and thus new markets. Typical self defeating unenlightenment of the old money that controls so much of our economy and government. The average citizen is too ignorant to really have a sentinent thought on the issue- fear everywhere..............

I believe they did a poll recently that stated that 3/4 of all seniors support medical marijuana. When will Bush listen?

2012

Don't forget the biggest special interest group that stands to lose if we change our drug policies: The Prison-Industrial Complex.

2030 - 2050. By this time, life on the planet won't be too pleasant most likely, so it won't be such a hot button issue.

Plus, those profiting from it being illegal now will likely be dead, which'll help. Whenever the baby boomers are all dead or demented with senility, "the sixties" be over, and thus we'll able to have a debate about weed again.

i think we should give weed to all the people who really need it the most and then see what happens